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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I push, BB calls all-in for less (whaaa?) and MP calls, as well.  The full call of my all-in was over 50% of his stack.  BB turns over Js9s, which I completely did not see coming, and MP turns over 55, for a set of 5s.  Turn card is his magic case 5, hits miracle quads and takes down a nearly $700 pot that he had no business winning.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Suffice to say, I did not hit my straight flush on the river.  But the river was the 10s, so I would have been fucked even if my reads were more correct.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hate 1-2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I push, BB calls all-in for less (whaaa?) and MP calls, as well.  The full call of my all-in was over 50% of his stack.  BB turns over Js9s, which I completely did not see coming, and MP turns over 55, for a set of 5s.  Turn card is his magic case 5, hits miracle quads and takes down a nearly $700 pot that he had no business winning.  </p>
<p>Suffice to say, I did not hit my straight flush on the river.  But the river was the 10s, so I would have been fucked even if my reads were more correct.  </p>
<p>I hate 1-2.</p>
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		<title>By: iflyhigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>iflyhigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what the hell happenend???  Don&#039;t leave me hanging!</description>
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		<title>By: jawngee</title>
		<link>http://empty-pockets.org/whats-your-most-memorable-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>jawngee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be thinking almost the same thing.  BB is feeling, MP is protecting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a fucked situation, MP is going to call you any which way you  &lt;br&gt;go.  If you push, he calls, if you smooth call, he gets his flush.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The math says to push, you are ~75% to win (4% chance to hit that  &lt;br&gt;straight flush) but, on the other hand, it&#039;s possible that this guy  &lt;br&gt;has a J or T high flush and is protecting it against the K.  But if  &lt;br&gt;all he has is a flush draw he can&#039;t call if you&#039;ve made it 270 to  &lt;br&gt;roll, but in 1/2 anything is possible.  So, yeah, you have to raise  &lt;br&gt;here.  It&#039;s really the only thing to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You could fold, you&#039;re only in for $10 at this point, but the $100 bet  &lt;br&gt;from MP is fishy.  I&#039;m trying to think what would prompt me to overbet  &lt;br&gt;the pot like that in MP with a flush draw on board.  By raising here,  &lt;br&gt;I&#039;m giving two people the opportunity to reraise me.  I&#039;m guessing  &lt;br&gt;that $100 was 25% of his stack? For me to make that bet in MP I&#039;d have  &lt;br&gt;to have second nuts or better or top pair/overpair with a high spade  &lt;br&gt;for the flush draw.  Or trips.  I&#039;m not going to raise 55 or 66, but  &lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll call $10 to see a flop.  I hit a set and I&#039;m going to bet to  &lt;br&gt;protect it.  But in this case, I&#039;d make a safety bet to see where they  &lt;br&gt;are at, so I&#039;m not going to put 25% of my stack out there, maybe a pot  &lt;br&gt;sized bet, ~$60.  I&#039;ve reraised the initial bettor, which signals some  &lt;br&gt;strength, but with two to act, I need a clearer picture of where I&#039;m at.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, if I&#039;m in MP and I do have second nuts, I&#039;m going to smooth call  &lt;br&gt;the original bettor, or min raise him to generate some action.  So I&#039;m  &lt;br&gt;going to have to say the chances of him having trips are pretty small,  &lt;br&gt;having second nuts or better is about the same.  So the only likely  &lt;br&gt;hand this guy has is top pair with a high spade, maybe JJ or 10-10,  &lt;br&gt;but he would have raised from MP pre-flop unless he was trying to  &lt;br&gt;replay a WSOP episode, which might be likely considering his poker t- &lt;br&gt;shirt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So yeah, I&#039;d push.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be thinking almost the same thing.  BB is feeling, MP is protecting.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fucked situation, MP is going to call you any which way you  <br />go.  If you push, he calls, if you smooth call, he gets his flush.</p>
<p>The math says to push, you are ~75% to win (4% chance to hit that  <br />straight flush) but, on the other hand, it&#8217;s possible that this guy  <br />has a J or T high flush and is protecting it against the K.  But if  <br />all he has is a flush draw he can&#8217;t call if you&#8217;ve made it 270 to  <br />roll, but in 1/2 anything is possible.  So, yeah, you have to raise  <br />here.  It&#8217;s really the only thing to do.</p>
<p>You could fold, you&#8217;re only in for $10 at this point, but the $100 bet  <br />from MP is fishy.  I&#8217;m trying to think what would prompt me to overbet  <br />the pot like that in MP with a flush draw on board.  By raising here,  <br />I&#8217;m giving two people the opportunity to reraise me.  I&#8217;m guessing  <br />that $100 was 25% of his stack? For me to make that bet in MP I&#8217;d have  <br />to have second nuts or better or top pair/overpair with a high spade  <br />for the flush draw.  Or trips.  I&#8217;m not going to raise 55 or 66, but  <br />I&#8217;ll call $10 to see a flop.  I hit a set and I&#8217;m going to bet to  <br />protect it.  But in this case, I&#8217;d make a safety bet to see where they  <br />are at, so I&#8217;m not going to put 25% of my stack out there, maybe a pot  <br />sized bet, ~$60.  I&#8217;ve reraised the initial bettor, which signals some  <br />strength, but with two to act, I need a clearer picture of where I&#8217;m at.</p>
<p>But, if I&#8217;m in MP and I do have second nuts, I&#8217;m going to smooth call  <br />the original bettor, or min raise him to generate some action.  So I&#8217;m  <br />going to have to say the chances of him having trips are pretty small,  <br />having second nuts or better is about the same.  So the only likely  <br />hand this guy has is top pair with a high spade, maybe JJ or 10-10,  <br />but he would have raised from MP pre-flop unless he was trying to  <br />replay a WSOP episode, which might be likely considering his poker t- <br />shirt.</p>
<p>So yeah, I&#8217;d push.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://empty-pockets.org/whats-your-most-memorable-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe not the most memorable, but currently dominating my analysis:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This past Friday at the Borgata, playing 1-2, sat with 100, had run up to 270 only losing one showdown and cultivating a very tight, very solid table image against some loose-aggressive players 3-5 to my left.  Been playing well and winning without having any strong pockets, but never getting caught having to show a bad play.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Having folded more than a full round in succession, i look at 7s8s in the button with 2 limpers.  I bump to 10, my standard open raise thus far.  BB calls, limper in MP calls.  Flop comes Q 5 6 all spades.  I&#039;ve flopped a flush with a draw to the stone-cold nuts.  BB bets out 20 into 30+ pot, MP raises to 100, I move in for 160 more, sure I have the best hand but wanting anyone with a naked high spade to have to pay for it.  I put the BB on top pair, MP raiser on a pair with K or A spades.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Right now, would you have played this any differently?  Only other option i see is smooth calling the 100, but with a player behind who could re raise (though his stack was smaller than mine), and be ready to fold if a 4th spade comes.  This play is against all of my instincts, however, especially in a cash game, but I also had a time limit and did not have much time to buy back in and build back up before I had to leave the tables for at least 4 hours.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, yeah, without knowing the outcome, how would you have played this?  BB was loose but unpredictable, I had a good read on him most of the time, though.  MP limper/raiser was decently solid, but had a backwards hat w/ sunglasses on top and a poker-themed shirt, and gave me an impression of thinking he was better than he was but could hide it with confident-seeming aggression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not the most memorable, but currently dominating my analysis:</p>
<p>This past Friday at the Borgata, playing 1-2, sat with 100, had run up to 270 only losing one showdown and cultivating a very tight, very solid table image against some loose-aggressive players 3-5 to my left.  Been playing well and winning without having any strong pockets, but never getting caught having to show a bad play.  </p>
<p>Having folded more than a full round in succession, i look at 7s8s in the button with 2 limpers.  I bump to 10, my standard open raise thus far.  BB calls, limper in MP calls.  Flop comes Q 5 6 all spades.  I&#8217;ve flopped a flush with a draw to the stone-cold nuts.  BB bets out 20 into 30+ pot, MP raises to 100, I move in for 160 more, sure I have the best hand but wanting anyone with a naked high spade to have to pay for it.  I put the BB on top pair, MP raiser on a pair with K or A spades.  </p>
<p>Right now, would you have played this any differently?  Only other option i see is smooth calling the 100, but with a player behind who could re raise (though his stack was smaller than mine), and be ready to fold if a 4th spade comes.  This play is against all of my instincts, however, especially in a cash game, but I also had a time limit and did not have much time to buy back in and build back up before I had to leave the tables for at least 4 hours.  </p>
<p>So, yeah, without knowing the outcome, how would you have played this?  BB was loose but unpredictable, I had a good read on him most of the time, though.  MP limper/raiser was decently solid, but had a backwards hat w/ sunglasses on top and a poker-themed shirt, and gave me an impression of thinking he was better than he was but could hide it with confident-seeming aggression.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://empty-pockets.org/whats-your-most-memorable-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my most memorable and enjoyable hands happened actually this week.. I have been playing for about 2 years now.  Half  of my poker time is spent at live games and the other half at home on full-tilt.. I was at home on the 3/6 NL and had Ad10d and raised to 16 pre-flop..  Flop  Jd 7d  5d!!  Stone cold nuts..  I check he bets 30 and I smooth call.  Turn comes Ah..  I bet 30 into a pot of about 100 to make it look like im scared..  He immediately raises me to 75..  Hes got about 200 back and I wanted to raise to make him pot-committed for my shove on the river so I raise him to 125.  He calls.  River didnt do anything no diamond didnt pair the board, I shove for the rest of his chips and he calls with As7s..  He had 2 pair on the turn and i played him like a fiddle, One of the hands that i believe I played to perfection..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my most memorable and enjoyable hands happened actually this week.. I have been playing for about 2 years now.  Half  of my poker time is spent at live games and the other half at home on full-tilt.. I was at home on the 3/6 NL and had Ad10d and raised to 16 pre-flop..  Flop  Jd 7d  5d!!  Stone cold nuts..  I check he bets 30 and I smooth call.  Turn comes Ah..  I bet 30 into a pot of about 100 to make it look like im scared..  He immediately raises me to 75..  Hes got about 200 back and I wanted to raise to make him pot-committed for my shove on the river so I raise him to 125.  He calls.  River didnt do anything no diamond didnt pair the board, I shove for the rest of his chips and he calls with As7s..  He had 2 pair on the turn and i played him like a fiddle, One of the hands that i believe I played to perfection..</p>
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		<title>By: algebraist</title>
		<link>http://empty-pockets.org/whats-your-most-memorable-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>algebraist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting, in that it&#039;s unusual, that Dong Khee&#039;s most memorable hand was one that he actually won. More commonly, we remember hands that we lost, usually because of the opponent&#039;s idiocy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I once lost a $700 pot at Galaxy (club in NY -- are they still open?), playing NL1-2, because the other dude was drawing to a flush, when I already had trips on the turn. Your opponent&#039;s idiocy, or sheer perversity and lack of respect for money, is something you always have to take into account. Rationality goes out the window -- and you have to factor this in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other thing that we forget is -- while we&#039;re busy reading our opponent, she&#039;s busy reading us. We make a play, and get called, and get called out, and we fume: how the fuck could you make that call? They made that call because they had a read on us. And this is a mindfuck -- poker is a moving target, and the target shoots back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting, in that it&#8217;s unusual, that Dong Khee&#8217;s most memorable hand was one that he actually won. More commonly, we remember hands that we lost, usually because of the opponent&#8217;s idiocy.</p>
<p>I once lost a $700 pot at Galaxy (club in NY &#8212; are they still open?), playing NL1-2, because the other dude was drawing to a flush, when I already had trips on the turn. Your opponent&#8217;s idiocy, or sheer perversity and lack of respect for money, is something you always have to take into account. Rationality goes out the window &#8212; and you have to factor this in.</p>
<p>The other thing that we forget is &#8212; while we&#8217;re busy reading our opponent, she&#8217;s busy reading us. We make a play, and get called, and get called out, and we fume: how the fuck could you make that call? They made that call because they had a read on us. And this is a mindfuck &#8212; poker is a moving target, and the target shoots back.</p>
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		<title>By: raymond1138</title>
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		<dc:creator>raymond1138</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am impressed with your hand recall.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose part of it is that I&#039;ve tried to treat each hand like its own little battle in the greater war so I try to push them out of my head. That&#039;s not to say I&#039;m not trying to profile my opponents at the time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose if I had to find a memorable moment, it was the first summer that I regularly played poker: the summer between high school and college where I chose not to work and earned a little spending money playing five-card draw and mooching off my friends at late-night Denny&#039;s sessions. Add to that a good dose of insomnia and watching old WSOP coverage on ESPN probably around 1999 and I was itching to find a game again. It only took me 8 years to find it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once I found my way to JG&#039;s house, I got the bug bad and got some scratch together, bought some books and chips and felt, and started a micro-stakes home game. Add a couple of trips to AC to the mix and I&#039;m proud to be the degenerate I am today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am impressed with your hand recall.</p>
<p>I suppose part of it is that I&#8217;ve tried to treat each hand like its own little battle in the greater war so I try to push them out of my head. That&#8217;s not to say I&#8217;m not trying to profile my opponents at the time.</p>
<p>I suppose if I had to find a memorable moment, it was the first summer that I regularly played poker: the summer between high school and college where I chose not to work and earned a little spending money playing five-card draw and mooching off my friends at late-night Denny&#8217;s sessions. Add to that a good dose of insomnia and watching old WSOP coverage on ESPN probably around 1999 and I was itching to find a game again. It only took me 8 years to find it.</p>
<p>Once I found my way to JG&#8217;s house, I got the bug bad and got some scratch together, bought some books and chips and felt, and started a micro-stakes home game. Add a couple of trips to AC to the mix and I&#8217;m proud to be the degenerate I am today.</p>
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		<title>By: iflyhigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>iflyhigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your hand recall is nuts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t remember any one particular hand that opened up the game for me.  That last trip to Vegas was a serious epiphany of religious magnitude.  For the first time, the game was crystal clear to me and I could easily divorce the random elements from the elements that I could exert influence over to sway the game my way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Got a long ways to go yet, but, I honestly feel for the first time in the six years I&#039;ve been playing that my game is hard to approach by others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your hand recall is nuts.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember any one particular hand that opened up the game for me.  That last trip to Vegas was a serious epiphany of religious magnitude.  For the first time, the game was crystal clear to me and I could easily divorce the random elements from the elements that I could exert influence over to sway the game my way.</p>
<p>Got a long ways to go yet, but, I honestly feel for the first time in the six years I&#8217;ve been playing that my game is hard to approach by others.</p>
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